Kick to the nuts

[Ari Bolden]

So, I am taking a poll. I just read one of my You Tube comments where someone said this about one of the head lock escapes:

"Or you could go under there close leg and lif thtem up for a slam in which you would land in Side control, where BJJ is actually believe it or not, very effective, good technique though...I just don't like reaching toward the face blindly, you might get bitten...and hitting to the groin is a puss move, street fight or not. "

I personally find this to be one of the most utterly ignorant postings I've had to date because this person's ego and misguided sense of 'right and wrong' are so out of whack it ain't even funny. Ask any bouncer, cop, or person who has been in a street fight (or had to defend themselves in a REAL LIFE situation) what the 'rules' are;

As I replied:

Yes, slamming is an option, but going to the ground in a street fight, even for us JJ guys, should be a last option, not the first. The hand toward the face is so you can grab onto or dig your finger into the eyes. And a strike toward the groin is a puss move? This isn't a jj competition. Self defense sometimes requires no rules. Survival first. While your busy protecting your ego from a 'puss move', you opponent has already hit you there twice. I guess Bas Rutten ans a whole host of other elite guys must be pussies too for advocating the groin strike as well???

Let me hear it..am I way off base....

[Dondo]

NO DOUBT YOU ARE RIGHT!!! as we all will agree (i'm assuming), that guy is an idiot. nobody in their right mind, black belt, white belt, any belt would find themself in a street fight and say, "gee, let me pull guard on this slab of concrete and see if i can find an opening where i can tap him out." as Bas so eloquently repeated over and over again in his video, "...heel to the groin." whatever works in a non-tourney life threatening situation, DO IT!

[Dannicus]

As far as I know, the purpose of a street fight is to keep yourself from getting hurt, and hurt the other guy. There are no rules, there is no "honor system", there is no agreement to not damage each other's genitals....WIN the fight! Anyway you know how to! That's my stance on the issue.




(disclaimer: The poster does not advocate the hurting of anyone. But hey...If a kick to the doodads stops the fight! Call me a pussy. Just do it in a high pitched voice.)

[Tom Gavrilos]

Sometimes you gotta kick da nuts:eek: "LIfe" dosent know rules.
I've never done it but I would if I had to.

[Ryan]

OMFG, Ari, I can't believe you are doubting yourself on this one. No, you are not offbase. Bas Rutten is not a pussy and I am pretty sure the poster would not have said that to his face. In an MMA fight or a martial arts tournament yes that would be a pussy move to do but in a street fight where they can break a bottle over your head, break a bottle and cut your throat or slam your head into concrete and pretty much do anything they want to you it should be about survival.

I remember an early UFC fight when the 2 combatants agreed before the fight that there would be no "hair pulling". I forget who they were but they were 2 long haired guys and I think the announcers were giving them shit.

[bjjdawg]

I'm a police officer and when we have a "fight", it could literally be for our lives. Getting KO'd in a MMA fight or choked out in JJ sucks and will definatly ruin your day, but when you have a weapon on your hip that can be taken and used, those results are not options! So if I have to kick a guy (or a girl or whoever!) in the crotch to prevent that...I'm not thinking twice about it. This goes for anyone, not just cops, when you're fighting for your life there is only one rule....you must win.

[Ryan]

You don't get "honor points" in Heaven for not kicking a guy in the nuts... in the end your still dead so why risk it? Call me a pussy for all I care..... I am still alive and I can live with being called a pussy if that means I can still see my family.

[Dante]

I would definetely rather kick someone in the nuts than get punched in the face for not doing it.
So, here's to a kick in the balls.

-Dante
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[Ricky V2]

So, I am taking a poll. I just read one of my You Tube comments where someone said this about one of the head lock escapes:

"Or you could go under there close leg and lif thtem up for a slam in which you would land in Side control, where BJJ is actually believe it or not, very effective, good technique though...I just don't like reaching toward the face blindly, you might get bitten...and hitting to the groin is a puss move, street fight or not. "

I personally find this to be one of the most utterly ignorant postings I've had to date because this person's ego and misguided sense of 'right and wrong' are so out of whack it ain't even funny. Ask any bouncer, cop, or person who has been in a street fight (or had to defend themselves in a REAL LIFE situation) what the 'rules' are;

As I replied:

Yes, slamming is an option, but going to the ground in a street fight, even for us JJ guys, should be a last option, not the first. The hand toward the face is so you can grab onto or dig your finger into the eyes. And a strike toward the groin is a puss move? This isn't a jj competition. Self defense sometimes requires no rules. Survival first. While your busy protecting your ego from a 'puss move', you opponent has already hit you there twice. I guess Bas Rutten ans a whole host of other elite guys must be pussies too for advocating the groin strike as well???

Let me hear it..am I way off base....

Truth is, most people who know nothing about actual fighting say that a groin kick is cheap. Both my sensei's(6th and 7th degree, plus multiple other black belts)say that a groin kick would be one of the first moves they would do. The groin is merely a weak spot. There are tons of weak spots on the human body, so would going for any of them make us wimps? Apparently it would, according to his logic.

[Tom Gavrilos]

Truth is, most people who know nothing about actual fighting say that a groin kick is cheap. Both my sensei's(6th and 7th degree, plus multiple other black belts)say that a groin kick would be one of the first moves they would do. The groin is merely a weak spot. There are tons of weak spots on the human body, so would going for any of them make us wimps? Apparently it would, according to his logic.

Groin kick is a time tested self defense move. No need to have a black belt to know that.. but I agree with them. We are talking about STREET fighting right guys. There is a marked difference in that term vs any other "fighting"

Street fighting in my mind cannot exist in its actual meaning with rules and name calling.

If you have rules than you are not fighting for your life your most likely fighting for a crowds amusement in an outdoor area... etc..like those you tube fights.

[gunnsjmg]

Ari you're 100% right as always when you're in danger its win at all costs. They can call me a pussy but they're the ones that'll be icing their jewels for a couple weeks.

[JamesB]

This talk of ball kicking reminds me of bully 911 on youtube where there answer for everthing is "strike the groin" :D

[Hadaka Jime]

yeah, groin strikes are a good way to get away from an attacker in a street fight, and who ever posted that if they got in a side hide lock in the street and a guy started to hall of and wail on his face i bet we all know he'd go for the groin strike, and he acted like there is easy leverage to lift your enemy off the ground, unless you have freakish back and lower body strength or the person holding you wieghs a lot less than you than you probably can't lift them... it is self defence, it is supposed to be performable by anyone so that if they are in a situation where there life is endangered it is quick, easy and effective, and a shot to the groin can be performed by a girl if a guy jumps her

but a lot of people said the first place to go if your in danger of your life is the groin, i personally disagree, but the groin is actually a very easy spot for a guy to defend, now in this situation the side head lock i would go for it and the eye gouge first, but if it is a face to face where there is seperation, if you are bieng jumped, and you go straight for the nuts all the attacker has to do his turn his hips 45 degrees and you kick or punch him in his hip, or they can block your attack with there hands... the groin from 1-3 feet is not the first place you should attack when fighting for your life, there are 30ish bones in the foot, and if you are bieng approached it is easier to 1 of the attackers feet, think about it, overall both of an averages persons feet total are 2.5 feet of area to hit, and if you connect the bones break easily and will allow you to run away and make them unable to run after you because they have a broken foot, the groin has about on average an 8-10 inch area that is blocked by the thigh muscles/fat and most attackers are more protective of this area, because it is the most commonly used attack vs a attacker, and if they have any experience they will defend it or even have a cup on, so the feet are a bigger target and will stop the attacker from chasing you, and the groin shot only disables the attacker for max 10 minutes but if you barely connect with the shot the attacker can continue in about 5 seconds, so in aris technique i would say go for the eyes first, and while digging in the eyes then groin strike, and keep gouging they eye(s) untill they pop of out the socket or you can escape, because no one will chase you down if they have there eyes gouged out, so eye gouge then groin shot in aris technique

for simple effective self defense moves in life or death situations i would go for

-foot stomps (hard heel to top-middle of foot breaking bones)
-eye gouges (digging deep in eye untill pops eye out of socket)
-throat strikes (direct to front of neck cutting out air way)
-heelkick 2 knee (turn foot 90 degrees so it is flat to the floor and extend leg hard and hit solid bottom backside of your foot (heel) to the knee cap shattering the joint and not allowing them to chase you down)
-groin strikes (make sure you connect before attempting to escape because if you don't get a solid shot they can recover and chase you down and will want to kill/injure you badly now that you took the risk going for that show)

[OutwardRooted]

Me, personally, if it's a one on one situation, I wouldn't immediately go for the groin. Not saying I'm against it, I'd just try to avoid it. I think a well placed foot in the gut works well enough. But yeah, if all else fails, or if he's a lot bigger than me, I'd totally punt those things right off.