What is your BJJ Lineage?

[GrCh35]

Mitsuyo Maeda -> Carlos Gracie -> Helio Gracie -> Rickson Gracie -> Wellington "Megaton" Dias -> (Me)

[Tom Gavrilos]

I want to say:

Count Koma> Carlos Gracie Sr. > Carlson Gracie Sr.> Andre Pederneiras > Gutavo Dantas > Santino DeFranco ---->Myself

[Roger]

Mitsuyo Maeda -> Carlos Gracie -> Helio Gracie -> Rickson Gracie ->Dino Costeas-> Me

[Tom Gavrilos]

Mitsuyo Maeda -> Carlos Gracie -> Helio Gracie -> Rickson Gracie ->Dino Costeas-> Me

Out of what school may ask?
is he Greek?
What weight class?

[Ryan]

Out of what school may ask?
is he Greek?
What weight class?

http://www.dinocosteas.com/


Here ya go Tom. He has links to Arlovski

[Roger]

Out of what school may ask?
is he Greek?
What weight class?

POW Martial Arts in Chicago. He's Arlovski's BJJ coach and also the IFL'S RedBears BJJ coach. This is my 2nd school I've been to in the last couple of years for BJJ and by far the best in my opinion.

[Tom Gavrilos]

Thanks Roger!
How for from the North Shore?

[Roger]

Thanks Roger!
How for from the North Shore?


Place is located on Washington and Morgan just west of Halsted( right by Greektown)probably a good 30-40 min drive with traffic. You plan on moving back to Chicago?

[prodigypenn]

ok so revival of this old dead topic, since weve got a bunch of new people, and i seem to have missed this so hers my lineage
maeda -> carlos gracie sr. -> helio gracie -> royler gracie -> saulo ribeiro -> leonardo xavier -> me -> my friends 7 yr old brother, and a few other frinds
on another note, ive been looking around, and i cant seem to find a good site for looking up bjj lineage, ive found a couple of places, but its got sum big gaps or names missing

[stormshadow]

Mitsuyo Maeda -> Gracie Family -> Shawn Chitwood -> Me

[georgetteo]

Relson Gracie -> Phil Cardella -> me

[Tallsilkyslim]

Rolls/Rickson Gracie > Pedro Sauer > Jared Emfield > Me

I have a few different teachers but Jared is the most credible and certified. I took Jits from a guy for 3 years that supposedly trained under Carlos Machado.

[LongV]

maeda -> carlos gracie sr. -> helio gracie -> royler gracie -> saulo ribeiro -> Rafael Lovato Jr. -> me

[SnakeBites]

any one forgeting Eddie or Ari,,;)

[Dannicus]

I had an interesting thought. As I will be moving soon, my lineage will change. How do you factor that stuff in, the moving to different schools and what not? As I have yet to attain my blue belt, would I not count my training now in that lineage?

As of now, my lineage is a 2 pronged lineage anyway(At least as it is displayed at the gym.)


Mitsuyo Maeda -> Carlos Gracie -> Helio Gracie -> Royce Gracie -> Eric Aasen (American School of Martial Arts) -> Me
Mitsuyo Maeda -> Carlos Gracie -> Reylson Gracie -> Rodrigo Gracie -> Eric Aasen -> Me

[Dannicus]

any one forgeting Eddie or Ari,,;)

The vast majority of us haven't directly trained under Eddie or Ari...

[SnakeBites]

true isent Eddie expensive?

[LongV]

true but, personally I haven't trained, in person, with Ari or Eddie

[rocknroll]

yeah but i think in america bjj is a little more expensive than in europe maybe, i read the expression "rich mans sport" here somewhere :) but i think all classes cost 90 $ per month at aris dojo, that isnt thaaaat expensive :) but for bravo, he is at a topclass location (legends gym) mh and he is the founder of very innovative system i think its expensive because he just can do it :)

[Ghosted3]

true isent Eddie expensive?

Im sure he is no more expensive than most other top name JJ schools anywhere.

Carlos Gracie Sr - Helio Gracie -Carlos Gracie Jr - Marcos Barros - me

[Ari Bolden]

BJJ classes usually range from $60/month to $299/month.

It depends on the LOCATION (city), other schools in the area (market competitiveness), and the NAME of the instructor.

Larger centers like LA can get more pricey but you've also got to factor in RENT and OVERHEAD in such areas. Higher prices are also an indication that the cost of running the school is higher.

I think Eddie's classes are $150 a month but don't quote me on that.

[JayC]

Helio Gracie > Pedro Sauer > Chris Brennan > Paul Rimmer - Jason Tan > Me

[Dannicus]

Quick thread hijack......that jay.....is a bad assed future 10thP logo....

[JayC]

Cheers man, look out for Ari's new stuff, I've sent him the PSD, it's like a chess match in graphic design :D!

[ParaParaJMo]

When I was in Japan
Count Koma->Carlos Gracie and Helio Gracie->Carlson Gracie->Andre Pederneries->Hiroshi Abe->Kenichi Terakado->Me

When I was in AZ

Count Koma->Carlos Gracie and Helio Gracie->Carlson Gracie->Andre Pederneries->Gustavo Dantas->Me

And I have yet to find a place to train in California

[Turf]

Mitsuyo Maeda -> Carlos Gracie -> Carlos Gracie, Jr. -> Brian Davis -> Me
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[Lefty]

Helio-pedro sauer -Allen Hopkins - me

[Ari Bolden]

Mitsuyo Maeda >> Carlos Gracie, Sr.>> Carlos Gracie, Jr>> Jean-Jacques Machado>>(slight divergance:D) Eddie Bravo>> Me

[Tom Gavrilos]

Ari Bolden --->Mail Ordered Blue Belt ----> Beat up a 10 year old ---->10 year old promoted me to Brown------> Then the Old Creepy Guy on the TV below motivated me to Black!!!


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i130/brazilianjiujitsugear/HulkMad.jpg
Dare you question my liniage? My liniage is unquestionable!!!

[Ghosted3]

Carlos Jr. got his black from Helio

[Ari Bolden]

Hey...I pulled that from bullshido lineage thread....You're the gracie guy...you would know:)

[humanchess101]

Maeda >> Carlos Gracie Sr. >> Carlson Gracie Sr. >> Julio Fernandez >> Koji Murakami >> Me (y)

[Ghosted3]

Hey...I pulled that from bullshido lineage thread....You're the gracie guy...you would know:)

It was posted in a Gracie mag a few months ago :D

I always thought it was weird that he didnt get it from his father.

[BadKarmaRising]

Ari Bolden --->Mail Ordered Blue Belt ----> Beat up a 10 year old ---->10 year old promoted me to Brown------> Then the Old Creepy Guy on the TV below motivated me to Black!!!


http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i130/brazilianjiujitsugear/HulkMad.jpg
Dare you question my liniage? My liniage is unquestionable!!!

Back in the 90's we got a dog up to 5th dan i think. All by mail order. I'll try to find the pic

[Ghosted3]

Not to thread jack, but does anyone else think that it is odd that Carlos Jr. got his Red / Black belt from Renzo instead of someone with a higher rank? I know they are family, and Carlos gave Renzo his black, but it seems kind of odd... Kind of like me giving Ari his brown in 10th P

[Cravin]

Mitsuyo Maeda - Carlos Gracie, Sr.- Carlos Gracie, Jr- Jean-Jacques Machado-Matt Baker-me

[prodigypenn]

Not to thread jack, but does anyone else think that it is odd that Carlos Jr. got his Red / Black belt from Renzo instead of someone with a higher rank? I know they are family, and Carlos gave Renzo his black, but it seems kind of odd... Kind of like me giving Ari his brown in 10th P
i dont think it was renzo that made the decision he should be promoted, but rather for the actual handing to him of the belt it was renzo

[Ari Bolden]

I thought it was the IBJJF that decided to do that? Many times, the federations give rank advancement to others (even if they aren't higher belts).

If you think about it, Helio never gained a belt in JIU JITSU (although he is a 5th dan in judo I think). He just learned the art, changed it and became the founder. In actual fact, Helio's status as a 10th Dan is not what he is. He is actually a SOKE (founder of the system and falls outside of the ranking).

Maybe I am wrong...that's how they do it in JJJ

[CEB]

FWIW

Soke isn't a founder. Western wannabees have really warped the understanding of the title.

Generally Soke is quite the opposite of founder. You can sort of liken the title to that of an old European guildmaster. The administrative job of Soke is to protect monopolistic control of the iemoto system he leads, not to perpetuate the creation of new ryuha.

Dr Bodiford wrote a very article on the subject.

http://www.koryu.com/library/wbodiford1.html

Have a nice weekend.

[TheJuice]

Mitsuyo Maeda >> Carlos Gracie, Sr.>> Helio Gracie >> Royce Gracie >> Scott McVeigh >> Me!

[michaelwbray]

Carlos Machado -> Anthony Perosh & Elvis Sinosic -> Me

[Nixed]

Mitsuyo Maeda -> Carlos Gracie -> Helio Gracie -> Rickson Gracie ->Dino Costeas-> Me

Apparently I go to the same school so this is mine as well.

[Twister-Australus]

Eddie Bravo -> books & the internet -> me

seriously though, I have no idea who or where any of my instructors learned their stuff :confused:

[Ari Bolden]

Eddie Bravo -> books & the internet -> me

seriously though, I have no idea who or where any of my instructors learned their stuff :confused:

Which is your school mate? Link? ;-) maybe we can help...:p

[SnakeBites]

Which is your school mate? Link? ;-) maybe we can help...:p

I can give you the name of the dojo (prolly spelled wrong) and teachers first name :D

[Twister-Australus]

Ok, so lets all learn about Aaron,
We'll skip taekwondo, karate and bujinkan cos frankly thats just embarrassing:D
I started BJJ at this place training under Matt Cooper:
http://www.advancemartialarts.com.au/
trained there for about 6 months, then they changed location (too far from my house)
So I got some friends together and started a grappling club, I bought a bunch of books and that is how I found Eddie. Training one day a week and being the most experienced person there was not enough for me so I was stoked when about a year later I discovered this place:
http://www.garrabjj.com.au/garra.php
the instructors name was Eduardo Diaz and I learned a lot from him, I got my blue belt after about a year. A small group with some good guys but they were somewhat hostile to 10th planet stuff, and I was somewhat hostile to the Gi, so a change was needed.
This is where I am now: http://www.integratedmma.com/indexLarge.htm
Danny Higgins is a BAD DUDE! and there are soo many good guys to train with, including one other 10th planet guy! I've only been there a month but I feel like I've improved a lot already. Add to that going to seminars with Frank and hopefully going to melbourne to train... Aarons gonna get good...:cool:

[deathblade]

Mitsuyo Maeda >> Carlos Gracie, Sr.>> Helio Gracie>>Carlos Gracie jr.>>Josh Russell>>Gary Vig>> Me

[sswturtle]

Maeda-->Helio-->Carlos "Caique" Elias --> Me (brown belt)

[batikspirit08]

Maeda -> Helio Gracie -> Rickson Gracie -> Jorge Pereira -> Paulo Guimaraes -> Fabio G (brown belt) -> me!

[Shonuff]

Rickson Gracie > Jorge Pereira > Leo Dalla > Lloyd Irvin > Julius Park > Me

[Tallsilkyslim]

My word Shonuff where have you been?

[Shonuff]

I was in Peru for a couple of weeks on vacation and then when I got home I immediately started doing work on a charity Haunted House I help build/operate every year for Halloween.

I have had about 10 minutes to breathe outside of work, training, circuits, and Haunted House stuff in the past 3 weeks. Hopefully starting next week life will be more relaxed and I can catch up here.

[abcdefg]

Jigoro Kano (http://www.judoinfo.com/kano5.htm) -> A whole lot of "I Dunno"? -> My instructor -> Me (http://www.brazilianjiujitsugear.com/forums/member.php?u=4546) :D

[Ari Bolden]

Jigoro Kano (http://www.judoinfo.com/kano5.htm) -> A whole lot of "I Dunno"? -> My instructor -> Me (http://www.brazilianjiujitsugear.com/forums/member.php?u=4546) :D

Who is your instructor and where ya training out of? We like to get an idea of where peeps are because some of us travel and its nice to meet forum members.

[SnakeBites]

Hey Ari whats your Lineage? So when I come up Ill just add your name to the list and then me :p

[abcdefg]

Who is your instructor and where ya training out of? We like to get an idea of where peeps are because some of us travel and its nice to meet forum members.

Of course, I'm in Nova Scotia, Canada. In the event somebody wishes more detail, I'd be happy to provide more via PM's.

[Jer_sm]

hah cool im in New-Brunswick, pretty close from Nova Scotia.

[Ari Bolden]

Of course, I'm in Nova Scotia, Canada. In the event somebody wishes more detail, I'd be happy to provide more via PM's.

The private sort huh :p I can respect that.

[CEB]

Who is your instructor and where ya training out of? We like to get an idea of where peeps are because some of us travel and its nice to meet forum members.


Plus it is kind of nice to get some bearing on a person's frame of reference when they post something. For instance are they speaking from experience or are they a keyboard warrior who just regurgitates stuff they have read off the internet.

I refer to this and the introductory / stats thread often after reading some people's posts. But that is just me.

Have a great week.

[Alder]

1.) Mitsuyo Maeda - Carlos Gracie - Jean-Jacques Machado - Me (white belt)

2.) Mitsuyo Maeda - Carlos Gracie - Renato Magno - Me (blue Belt)

3.) Mitsuyo Maeda - Carlos Gracie - Jean-Jacques Machado - Eddie Bravo - Me (Purple & Brown)

[batikspirit08]

Thats one to be proud of!

[CEB]

I never posted anythng here. Since I reference the thread I guess I should put up as well. This is the abridged version. I suck. It is just that I have been training for close to 40 years and I am too stupid to quit.

Judo
Wey Sang Kim (one of the top HW Judokas of the 50s and early 60s) >> Bill Combs >> me

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu
Carlos Gracie Sr >> Helio Gracie >> Carlos Gracie Jr >> Marcos Barros >> me

Goju Ryu
Miyagi Chojun >> Seigo Tada >> Yamakura Motoo >> me
And
Miyagi Chojun >> Miyazato Eiichi >> Chinen Teruo >> Dave Shaneman >> me