question about sportsmanship

[danjr]

Now that I have the lockdown down, I find myself passively using it to maintain control and people are tapping out! Theres an older gentleman at judo who only practices newaza and I used the lockdown on him and he looked astonished. I'm guessing he's never felt a calf slicer before and didn't know if he should tap out or not and he was asking me what I was doing, so I showed him how and now he uses it :cool: .

Is it cheap or unsportsmanlike (is that a word?) to use the lockdown to get a tap? I have long legs so I barely have to squeeze to inflict pain - I can see by their facial expression. I mean I can squeeze ALL DAY and not get tired and get taps. I have yet to use full force even. This seems kind of cheap, you know... I realize that 10PJJ turns it into an offensive position, but the rest of the world sees the guy on top as 1/2 way to side or full mount. It's easy to establish and effortless for me to get a tap. Would you use a move like this while rolling? No doubt you would in competition but when you are just rolling, do you see it as playing and practicing your game or a boring way to finish a roll?

Since I just recently unlocked the power of the lockdown (no pun intended), I've been using it sparingly, but I have been using it to see my, and other people's, limits.

[Ryan]

Anyway (inside the rules) that you can get the tap DO IT! Its unsportsmanlike to rub it in, demoralize people verbally or just being a jerk about it. You showed someone what you did so your not hogging it yourself.

Keep using it but get other weapons in your game so you have a "go to" move when your opponents scout you out in competition or practice.

[Ari Bolden]

Dan:

The best submissions are the ones that don't take effort (man, I wish they were all like that).

Until some old school Brazilian decides to outlaw the F#$king lockdown at NAGA or ADCC (I kid), keep using it.

I should point out that this move is great against people who are new or have never encountered the 10thPJJ system.

It doesn't work against guys (as a TAP) who are use to the sysytem. As a matter of fact, I've got 6 bruises on my legs from lockdown attempts from my guys as I write this. Par for the course. Keep using it and may you be blessed with more success!

Yours in jits!
Ari

[Oneiros]

As Ryan said... you shared your technique and you didn?t rub it in his nose...
so no unsportslike behavior detected...

keep the submitting on Dan ;-)
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[mattamatta]

Shoot, I'm definitely doing it wrong. I do seem to be able to hang onto the leg for a while, but it seems like it becomes a foot-pushing pressure war when I can make it work, and half the time their legs are too short or too far forward for me to get a hold of.... I'll keep working at it.