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kennrh
05-20-2008, 05:59 PM
whats up fellows. Does anyoneone have advice on breathing and staying relaxed while sparring? I have only been doing bjj for about 3 months and just gas out. Most of my class are at about the same level ( but most are judo players, the bjj is new at the dojo ). We are starting to spar more and after my first partner I'm huffing ( I am also very out of shape ). Or, is this just something that comes with time?

Ghosted3
05-20-2008, 06:02 PM
Its a bit of both. I am still out of shape, but my gas tank is better because I breathe correctly. I can handle rolling in class fairly well. What you need to remember is to make yourself breathe consciously. When you start to roll in the back of your mind think to breathe. After awhile you will breathe naturally and will have no worries. Also after time rolling ect. in class you will get into better shape which will in turn help your gas tank / breathing. Best of luck to you!

CEB
05-20-2008, 06:20 PM
That is good piece of it. Another piece is the efficiency of your anarobic energy system. Longer you do this easier it will get.

You could be a marathon runner who runs 10 miles a day and 2 minutes of Jiu Jitsu rolling will gas you out due to the natur of the work. A guy I know who coaches wrestling said it real well. When I asked him if adrenaline was a factor in gasing out.

Rolling around and running work two different "energy systems". Rolling around is anaerobic. Jogging is aerobic, by and large. so, that's why I can get a cross country runner and exhaust him in 2 min wrestling. The enzymatic systems are more geared for one or another. It's not the adrenaline so much.

kennrh
05-20-2008, 06:44 PM
Thanks guys, it's frustrating when your holding your own for a minute or two and then "bam" your ready to pass out.

Ghosted3
05-20-2008, 06:49 PM
That is good piece of it. Another piece is the efficiency of your anarobic energy system. Longer you do this easier it will get.

You could be a marathon runner who runs 10 miles a day and 2 minutes of Jiu Jitsu rolling will gas you out due to the natur of the work. A guy I know who coaches wrestling said it real well. When I asked him if adrenaline was a factor in gasing out.

Was that Lee?

CEB
05-20-2008, 06:52 PM
Was that Lee?

No. A guy I know who is a Karate 5th Dan from California who teaches High School Chemistry and coaches Wrestling.

Ghosted3
05-20-2008, 06:53 PM
No. A guy I know who is a Karate 5th Dan from California who teaches school and coaches wrestling.

That sounds like an interesting combination.

Eric?!
05-20-2008, 07:02 PM
I'm Looking Into YOGA For This Same Reason?!

Dondo
05-20-2008, 08:19 PM
as crazy as it sounds, rolling with your eyes closed actually helped me quite a bit. eyes open when you are newer to jj you are constantly "looking" at what to do next. i found that when i would have my eyes closed you really have to be patient and feel where your opponent is. obviously this is in a light rolling session not balls to the wall, but for what it's worth, that's what helped me. plus when you try to use so much strength it gasses you out much sooner. hope it can help...

thedogwave
05-20-2008, 08:57 PM
i had the same problem. the best thing to do is try to breathe normally for the amount of physical movement you're doing but at the same time realizing that at some points your chest will probably have a lot of weight on it and realizing not to panic when you have to shorten your breathing. that was the hardest thing for me, realizing that i can still breathe with someone putting all their weight on my chest. basically try to breathe consistently but realize at times you'll have to shorten your breathing and other times you'll have more room to take deeper breathes.

prodigypenn
05-20-2008, 09:11 PM
training while without seeing sounds rlly interesting, but i dont think i will b able to find many ppl who r willing to try

TheSaddestDay
05-20-2008, 09:13 PM
Oddly what helped (and still helps) me breath and relax is when I am rolling if I notice my partner is holding his breath or tensing up I will point out to him that he needs to calm down and breath.

Trying to help my training partners build good breathing habits has in turn helped me.

BadKarmaRising
05-21-2008, 07:17 AM
A good friend of mine whom I've trained with for a while now has a very simple answer to the breathing question. He actively makes sure his breathing is slower than his opponent's.

Doesn't matter if it's just rolling at the club or in an actual fight, (he's 5-0 as a pro), he just forces himself to relax and breathe more slowly than the guy hey's rolling with.

When I can remember to do it, it helps.