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CEB
07-01-2008, 07:00 AM
I have just started learning no gi jiu-jitsu.

As usual .... I suck. But i like it so far.

What in your opinions are the main things I should concentrate in making the transition to no gi? Controlling the opponent is more difficult but it is a 2-way street. Also rash guard makes me look really really fat ... instead of just fat.

Any tips?

Thanks

blackfox
07-01-2008, 07:36 AM
do some sit ups? as far the other stuff goes just get your grip strength up and practice your head control, sweeps and speed.

johnnyP
07-01-2008, 08:02 AM
do some sit ups? as far the other stuff goes just get your grip strength up and practice your head control, sweeps and speed.

A major asset that I have found in no-gi training is increasing your "squeeze" power. It is my understanding that w/ a gi you can control your opponent pretty well by gripping their clothing, so a strong grip is important.

But as far as keeping someone in your guard, squeezing w/ your legs and arms can help a ton (as well as having a good grip on various parts of their body).

I know Eddie Bravo talks about squeezing power being a necessity w/ rubber guard and other positions. But like blackfox said, work head control and sweeps like a madman. And speed during a scramble is much more important bc its harder to latch onto your opponent.

BadKarmaRising
07-01-2008, 09:10 AM
Try a black rash guard.


When it comes to not driving yourself nuts making the transition from gi to no go, transitions are the word of the day.

If a position is getting away from you when wearing jammies, you can often reel it back in with a handful of cloth. When it's slipping away and all you have to grab on to is covered in sweat, reeling it back isn't usually an option. So let it slip on your terms and transition into whatever position your opponents exit gives you.

Just my two cents.


I have just started learning no gi jiu-jitsu.

As usual .... I suck. But i like it so far.

What in your opinions are the main things I should concentrate in making the transition to no gi? Controlling the opponent is more difficult but it is a 2-way street. Also rash guard makes me look really really fat ... instead of just fat.

Any tips?

Thanks

Ari Bolden
07-01-2008, 11:01 AM
Ed:

The nogi game is faster, no doubt about it. All the guys thus far have given so really good advice) learn how to give up a position to transition when one is failing on you, develop the squeeze power in both arms and legs). Since you are a judo guy and like to pin more than likely, I would really work on perfect side control (head and arm side control). The 'rest' spots in nogi are different of course.

Remember that the gi game can be tight too. It can also be slow and methodical IF you play the right game (rubber guard vs standard guard with double wrist control, lock down half guard, monkey mount, twister side control). All of these positions were developed to control your opponent better than standard positions. Yes, I know is sounds like a 10th Planet ad here, but ask anyone who has moved from BJJ, SAMBO, or JUDO and they'll tell you that it works...and it works well.

The whole key to grappling is to dictate the distance between you and your partner. Nogi is no different.

cree357
07-01-2008, 11:44 AM
I have problems w/ no gi as well. One of my most effectiove finishes from mount is ezekiel. I think my transitions aren't quick enough. Also I have trouble w/ my sweeps b/c I don't seem to get the same leverage and let's face it, an underhook is much harder to get then a handful of lapel.

Locoplata
07-01-2008, 12:43 PM
As someone who has only ever trained no gi, I can say:

Work on your overhooks, underhooks and head control. Grip strength is not very important, which is why it was possible for Jean Jacques Machado to excel with only one gripping hand.

Outside of occasional wrist control (which is easily broken anyway) you literally never use grip strength. You're always using cupped hands and hooks instead.

Just my 2 cents.

flying gogo-plata
07-01-2008, 02:09 PM
pummel, pummel, pummel! work on under hooks and over hooks, and learn to grip with a cupped hand like Locoplata said, that's really important u gotta learn how to control someone by grabbing the lats the biceps and triceps and the back of the neck those are the main grips for upper body control

the viking clan 777
07-02-2008, 11:01 AM
black works,sprawl makes a short sleve t-shirt /rash guard looks good and works well.no gi is important to be fluent in some times you might meet a guy who isn't wearing a jacket.less stalling much faster I feel it makes you beter fighter