What do you pay for training? [Archive] - Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Gear Forums

Fox1s2

07-28-2007, 07:22 PM

100$ per month, as many classes as you can go to, 6 classes a week....14/week if you go to all 3 schools consecutively, all the schools are within 15 mins of each other.

Jhoon Rhee institute, Tampa, FL...Teaches MMA style, JJ, Kickboxing,Muay Thai, and Aikido techniques.

Pretty well rounded school thats worked for me...pretty modern in its techniques also, nothing taught that you couldn't use on the streets to defend yourself.

HURLEYABB

07-28-2007, 07:46 PM

120 a month unlimited gi/no gi.

GrCh35

07-28-2007, 11:12 PM

Megaton's is $140 a month. Tuesday/ Thursday morning & evening class, 2 hrs each, Saturday morning class, 2 hrs. Monday/Wednesday open mat, 2 hrs each. Friday private class. Sunday closed.

Lauritas is $100 a month. Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday/Thursday, 1 hr each. 2 locations to chose from. Can use either place.

Ryan

07-28-2007, 11:45 PM

What are you paying for? Learning Jiu-Jitsu? weight room and cardio? Gi?

What does a membership entail?
Like, does a portion go towards a team gi or uniform, weights and cardio machines and the actual learning of BJJ? Or is it one of those things where BJJ is one fee, you must buy a gi and the weight room comes at additional cost?

GrCh35

07-29-2007, 10:29 AM

At the 2 places that I mentioned you pay for the instruction & mat time. The Lab charges $180 a month. With that you get your BJJ classes, Muy Thai, weight room, there's punching bags, an octagon ring. The students must own there own kimono's & protective gear. The thing I hate about The Lab besides the cost a month was that you have to have plain white kimonos. There can be no patches or anything on them.

prodigypenn

07-29-2007, 12:34 PM

there are 2 schools in my area, and more schools farther away, but ive only visited 1 of the 2 schools so far, and while the instruction seems pretty good, the tuition/class time ratio is too expensive for a college student to afford, 200 dollars down, and 109 a month for 2 classes per week, if u go to more classes u pay more, and a 1 time annual contract, and thats just jiu-jitsu, they also have muay thai and jeet kune do and MMA as well. The head instructor is eric williams the second american to win the world jiu-jitsu championship according to his biography.
the other school is run by leonardo xavier who trained and tauight at the gracie academy in brazil. I havent had time to check out his school yet so i have no idea what its like or what the prices are.

Ari Bolden

07-29-2007, 01:39 PM

Ryan

07-29-2007, 02:21 PM

Move to Troy Ohio....... nothing to do but train train train.

HURLEYABB

07-29-2007, 03:36 PM

Ari, good for you for keeping your prices honest. I understand that everyone has to make a living but I think if the instruction is good and the facility is clean more people will join and stay for the lower prices. There are about 6 different Gracie Barra locations and about triple that of other BJJ schools in my area, but I will be damned if I'm going to pay 150-170 a month just because they throw in a gi. The school I belong to is relatively new so the prices are reasonably good, and the instruction is solid. If I was planing on competing in the ADCC then I could justify 200 a month for top notch instruction but since that will never happen its not an issue :) . I found a school that had great facilities with a gym,showers, ring,octagon,muy thai classes, gi & nogi for 80 a month... the only problem is that they make you sign a 3yr contract for that price. I almost joined because Dean lister was teaching there for a while but 6 months after I checked it out he split to somewhere else, and from what I hear it has been a revolving door of instructors ever since. The worst part is that they wouldnt let those out of thier contract when Lister split because technically they provided a Jiu Jitsu teacher after he left. They didnt even let any students know he wouldn't be back, someone from the class saw it on Deans myspace and told everyone else, shady huh?

GrCh35

07-29-2007, 07:29 PM

Here is what I charge:

10 classes per week (2 per day)
Class 1.5 hrs
30 miniute open mat every day
2 hour open mat on Sat:

Unlimited training: $80/month no money down no contract

I guess I need to move to one of your cities and charge more!

You need to move down here to Surprise, Arizona. All we have here is a bunch of karate places. If we want any type of JJ we have to go far. Oh & keep the prices the same. :D

Ari Bolden

07-29-2007, 07:41 PM

I should run a mini seminar when I am down there with some of you guys!

Mastering the Pentagram...laugh

ijj24

07-30-2007, 11:03 AM

Sounds like my gym is the most, $100 a month for tuesday and saturday gi, thursday no gi, all classes 1 hour. Our gym is pretty relaxed and laid back though. We're not really intense but we get a lot done because everyone wants to be there. I didn't really check the other gyms around before i signed up, mostly because it was so close. For an extra $20 you get MMA 2 times a week. I don't really care if it's expensive, I'm happy with my gym.

Tallsilkyslim

07-30-2007, 11:10 PM

I pay 105.00 a month for 3 classes a week in BJJ and Kenpo at the same school. He is a Pedro Sauer affiliate. Then I train two nights a week for free at Worlds Gym. I actually train guys there in JJ to prepare for the cage. But they end up teaching me more than I teach them.:)

prodigypenn

07-31-2007, 09:52 PM

i never knew that jiu-jitsu could b so inexpensive, im hoping that other school that ive yet to check out is not too procy, so far tho the school i mentioned is the most expensive as far as class time to cost is concerned, 109 for 2 classes per week seems pretty high priced now that ive seen all the other prices

Ari Bolden

07-31-2007, 10:55 PM

One thing you have to realize is what the market can bare in your city. Is it small or large? Is there only 1 JJ school in town? More?

My rates are extremely low. I should be charging about 100 bucks/month. Instructors have to make a living (or at least pay the rent).

Just my 2 cents.

prodigypenn

08-01-2007, 12:07 PM

theres 2 schools just within the 10 mile raidus of my house, and others as well but much farther away, i live in houston texas so its a pretty big city, and while i can understand 109/month i have to pay 200 down and sign an annual contract and that price does not include free uniform, so im looking at over 300 for the first month alone, as well as cost of uniform or other equipment if i take the other classes, and i can only take 2 classes per week, if i take more than ill have to pay more

dmc535

11-09-2007, 01:48 PM

I train at Gracie Barra Orlando, FL... I pay $95 a month for unlimited training in both BJJ and Mui-Thia. For another $25 you could also take the MMA class.
I think it's a great deal.

Ghosted3

11-09-2007, 08:33 PM

I pay 108 a month, have an option to take up to 17 classes a week (1 hour long) with 1 MMA class a week. Also offered (included into the fee) are MT classes, and american boxing classes. Not bad for this area I suppose, especially since there are no other close schools, I imagine prices would be a bit lower if there was competition. Oh, its Gracie Barra - Springfield Il.

visi0n

11-10-2007, 07:06 AM

wow, i'm paying a whole lot more than all of you

i pay $160/month.. 3x a week at the Serra Academy... but it seems the same price for all the schools around my area (NY)

bjjdawg

11-10-2007, 09:43 PM

I'm in northern NJ and I pay about $135/month for twice a week BJJ(Gi) I think it's $150 for 3 times a week which I think I'm gonna do. 1 hour classes offered 6 times a week. privates are 80-150 depending on instructor

Ryan

11-10-2007, 09:56 PM

Thats pretty high, tell me, who is your instructor? what do they supply you for the $135 a month?

bjjdawg

11-11-2007, 10:36 PM

Johnny Guerrero. He's a black belt under Rigan Machado & Marcos Santos. Awesome instructor and great guy. There are 2 or 3 other schools within 30 or so minutes that are priced pretty much the same. I'm sure I could find a better deal somewhere in NYC which is only 15 miles away, but its much more convienent going to my school than trying to get into the city couple times a week.

Ryan

11-11-2007, 10:42 PM

What are you supplied for that price?

Ari Bolden

11-11-2007, 10:50 PM

Ryan:

I think what people have to remember is what the market will bear in the area and city they are in. Typically, large cities like NYC, LA and such are higher price because rent and cost of living tend to be higher.

Also, I have found that many instructors will charge more because of their lineage. Also, as a selling point, instructors will charge more because the higher the cost, the student 'feels' like they are getting more.

To put it another way: You have 2 instructors. One charges 60/month and the other charges 120. The student will often think " The cheaper one is great but the 120 guy must be better because he's 'worth' more." Its all about marketing.

As instructors, we have to make a living. While I charge 80/month for 11 classes a week, I'd be lying that I wouldn't mind charging $150, but the market could bear it where I am at.

Also, I don't want to totally exclude those who want to do JJ and $ is an issue.

My 2 cents

Ryan

11-11-2007, 11:57 PM

I totally understand. I guess I come from an area where things are cheaper if it is just instruction. For instance, we have a Karate dojo with daily classes throughout the week nights that only charge $40- 50 a month. We also have BJJ gyms in Dayton that charge $15 everytime you get on the mat. This also includes, weight training, cardio machines, a cage, ring, BJJ classes, Muay Thai and Marcus Davis, Rich Franklin, Jorge Gurgel and Dustin Hazelett train there.

I guess in my area you expect to pay for value and not necessarily a minimal service. If you just teach BJJ then a class may average $10 a pop but if you offer BJJ classes, weights, treadmills and other martial arts then the price goes up.

Remember.... we don't even have "toll" roads around here.

Spidaman

11-12-2007, 02:39 AM

Ryan

11-12-2007, 07:07 AM

Well mine is 65$ a month + 25$ a year for the AJJA membership (It's 45$ a month for women). I then get the option of 3 classes a week each being 90 minutes. We just do basic JJ, no MMA and no mat time. It's good though, I like it.

Thats good! Thats really all that matters is that you like it and you feel like you get a good deal. I wouldn't mind going to that school. 90 minutes of class and your probably pretty wiped out, huh?

Ricky V2

11-12-2007, 07:54 AM

I take 2 classes per week of Tatsu-Do Karate, which includes Straight Karate, Aiki Jitsu, Ju Jitsu, and we've been working a lot more ground fighting/MMA style moves(Thanks to Submissions101). 2 hour classes 2 times per week for $45 a month.

cyrus

11-13-2007, 09:08 AM

Keep up the good work Ari,while you may be down on a per student basis,with your quality product at a great price im sure you will soon make up for it with volume.With todays economy cost is becoming a big factor,im an autoworker in detroit and jobs are being cut at an alarming rate.My hours have already been cut and looks to get worse,it looks like my BJJ training is going to have to be suspended,very depressing.

Ryan

11-13-2007, 12:10 PM

Dondo

11-13-2007, 12:22 PM

between the auto industry and my realm, the mortgage industry, there are a ton of hurting people. it's pretty sad and scary at the same time. we've endured some rough times but have managed to survive, for now.

Ghosted3

11-13-2007, 12:28 PM

As much as I hate to say it I might have to agree with my mother. She has been saying for about the past 5 years that we are getting ready for another "depression" era, and she may be right.

Dondo

11-13-2007, 12:33 PM

YOU SAID THE "D" WORD...NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

...let's just hope not

Ryan

11-13-2007, 12:42 PM

YOU SAID THE "D" WORD...NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

...let's just hope not

I work in the pharmacy world and let me tell you about depression..... in Lexapro alone we send out 20,000 Lexapro tabs out monthly and we only send 30 day supplies. That is 240,000 Lexapro a month which amounts to about 667 people in nursing homes on it a month. Keep in mind, this is only 1 brand of anti-depression pills. There is also Zoloft, trazodone, prozac, cymbalta, paxil and Sertraline among others. We also only sell drugs to nursing homes which means that we don't even touch those who can go to a Dr. office for a prescription.

Sad huh?

Dondo

11-13-2007, 12:50 PM

it's true, there is so much medicating out there on ridiculous levels. i won't get started on my take on it, but i know it affects a lot of people. the problem starts is when you have to take a separate medication to offset the effects of your first medication and so on and so forth. it can get pretty heavy. scary stuff because realistically how long have we been studying the long term affects of these drugs...not long!

cyrus

11-13-2007, 09:14 PM

There is a new Honda plant in Indiana i am trying to get into.Actually im hoping to turn this into an opportunity to get out of the auto industry and turn this into something positive.It sucks because training was the balance to the job stress and everything will be out of whack

Ari Bolden

11-13-2007, 09:29 PM

I know its not much consolation but where ever you go cyrus, the Submissions 101 virtual gym will always be here....

Ryan

11-14-2007, 12:16 AM

Cyrus..... also think of subs101 as a family of sorts. You can always tell us whats going on, when you go to tournaments you basically have us cheering you on when you get back online and you get endless encouragement.

Spidaman

11-15-2007, 12:48 AM

Ryan - I wouldn't say we get wiped out but we definetly do get a decent workout and a bit of sweat. Our Dojang has alot of different students (300 pound, 6'3 man to 90 pound 5'3 female. 13 year olds to 50 year olds. Really fit people to fairly fit people.) so our instructors try and keep the class to a nice medium. Which I really don't mind because I'm already working out every monday,wednesday and friday.

Dondo

11-15-2007, 12:52 PM

OK, let's lay out this debacle of "How Much You Pay For Training", because it's a bitter subject for me, especially since i can tell i WOULD be paying the most.

Basically thanks to Tom he hooked me up with Santino Defranco (his gym is Southwest MMA) last year and he only charged $75 a month and i could hit up about 3-6 classes (combining the Kickboxing and No Gi Jiu-Jitsu) per week, BUT i live clear across town from his place and with a stay at home wife and two girls (now three daughters, lucky me), my time was limited so i had to leave there because i basically would leave for work around 7am and if i went to train afterwards, i wouldn't get a home until around 11pm. needless to say the mrs. wasn't happy.

now since i don't train for competition, more for health and enjoyment i needed something closer, and i found the NEW place which happens to be the best facility in the state, but they are ridiculous as far as pricing goes. for a monthly membership it's $184 per month, which didn't include any one on one and just a variety of "basic" classes. long story short i just thought the cost was too much for what i was getting out of it so i left and began looking around. now i am considering going back since they added some new classes, instructors and revamped things. the variety and quality is luring me back in but i have to try it for a free week before i make any commitments. the facilities are top notch, but for a non-fighting person as myself, i still have a hard time rationalizing the cost (my wife does too). They now have Alvin "Kid" Robinson and his coach over there now, you may have seen his last fight against Gurgel, the big banner behind him at the beginning of the fight is the gymm, "The Lab". so we shall see if i fork out that money and go back. check out the place, it's pretty impressive.

www.mmalab.com

Ari Bolden

11-15-2007, 01:14 PM

Hey Dondo:

I am not sure where John Bottello's place (Sitan's Gym) is in relation to you but John is a great guy (Tom knows him too) and trains under Eddie Bravo.

Just giving you another possible option because John's one of those guys that is a diamond in the rough and he's the only one in the State that is training and teaching Eddie's shit....

Dondo

11-15-2007, 02:57 PM

Thanks Ari, I believe it's out by Santino's place...so i may be in the same boat.

Tom, what are the cross streets???

Thx!

cyrus

11-15-2007, 09:40 PM

Thanks for the kind words guys-it does help.Ari.i know im a little off topic here but im trying to look into some bouncing gigs to supplement the income.Having no expierence any recommendations on where to start out at(strip clubs or bars/dance clubs)?

Ari Bolden

11-15-2007, 10:09 PM

Cyrus: see the other thread called Bouncer in the off topic forum

bigsky

11-15-2007, 10:15 PM

Wow, I may qualify for the cheapest. $36/8 1.5hr sessions, or 2 classes/week. Class is taught by a brown belt a student of Luiz Claudio. Not a bad deal for a small town in Northern WI.

Ryan

11-16-2007, 12:00 AM

dunster

11-16-2007, 06:14 AM

i pay £2.50 for about 2 hours, thats around $5, twice a week, no gi, can use the weights and stuff as much as you like

Ryan

11-16-2007, 07:12 AM

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your going to have lots of people mad at you lol:D :mad: :D

Dondo

11-16-2007, 12:00 PM

Is it possible Dondo to just buy some mats and find a training partner who is willing to come over and roll with you a few times a week? Maybe get someone of a higher caliber to come over and keep you learning.

Ryan, little did you know that that was exactly what i had done to begin with with. Guess who was my instructor...Tom!!! poor guy would drive almost an hour to come roll with me for about an hour or so. in between he would entertain my kids and partake in whatever food we had available. and that was basically what he accepted as payment, Dondo's open kitchen! outside of moving around furniture and a little rugburn from having no mats, it worked out great. but too much distance and too little time caused us to have to end that after a while. plus with three little ones running around wanting to be involved, it's hard to have free space. if i didn't like where i lived so much (a little outside of the city) i'd move closer to other gyms. i guess that's why The Lab worked out good because it was only about a 20 minute drive. i will most likely start my free week back next week or right after. we shall see if it's any better. thx!

Ryan

11-16-2007, 02:02 PM

Ryan, little did you know that that was exactly what i had done to begin with with. Guess who was my instructor...Tom!!! poor guy would drive almost an hour to come roll with me for about an hour or so. in between he would entertain my kids and partake in whatever food we had available. and that was basically what he accepted as payment, Dondo's open kitchen! outside of moving around furniture and a little rugburn from having no mats, it worked out great. but too much distance and too little time caused us to have to end that after a while. plus with three little ones running around wanting to be involved, it's hard to have free space. if i didn't like where i lived so much (a little outside of the city) i'd move closer to other gyms. i guess that's why The Lab worked out good because it was only about a 20 minute drive. i will most likely start my free week back next week or right after. we shall see if it's any better. thx!

Thats awesome. I know what you mean though about kid involvement. Well, I hope you find a place you like permanently.... Have you thought about competing again?

Dondo

11-16-2007, 02:08 PM

i never competed, just did it more for enjoyment and fitness, so to speak. plus, ask Tom, i'm a very easy going guy, and training allowed me to relieve stress, haha! i did tell the wife that i eventually would like to compete in grappling tourneys, which she was cool with, but as a family man, i doubt i could do anything more. oh well, we shall see though

Ryan

11-16-2007, 02:11 PM

I see what you mean..... maybe if your girls see you compete they would want to make it a family affair and do it themselves.

Dondo

11-16-2007, 02:19 PM

trust me, my six year old loves jiu jitsu already, i've been working on her and will probably enroll her in due time. she asks me every night, "daddy can we do jiu jitsu?" and of course, her favorite move is the rear naked choke...go figure. i just have to warn her not to bust it out on her cousins when they piss her off!

Ryan

11-16-2007, 10:40 PM

Your lucky! Maybe you can get them in a Kyra Gracie seminar sometime. She is a great role model for women in Jiu-Jitsu

OutwardRooted

11-19-2007, 04:55 AM

My dojo has changed. When I first started, we had classes Monday, Wednesday (fight night), and Friday. Kids class ran from 6:30pm-8, adults from 8-around 10pm. After our original sensei left, the two that took over changed it to just Tuesdays and Thursdays, same times. Since we're strickly not-for-profit, we just have the money from the kids class pay for the dojo expenses, and any money us adults lay down goes towards gear and equipment. The parents of the kids pay $50 a month, and the adults can pay pretty much whatever.

Manateekisser

11-21-2007, 11:21 AM

I pay $89 a month for Muai-Thai 4 times a week and Jiu Jitsu 4 times a week under Dan Camarillo.

Tom Gavrilos

11-21-2007, 03:34 PM

I pay $89 a month for Muai-Thai 4 times a week and Jiu Jitsu 4 times a week under Dan Camarillo.

Thats a great deal! Whats with the name :D
+ Welcome to the board !!

Manateekisser

11-21-2007, 11:10 PM

It was an inside joke from friends a long time ago. Kind of stuck. We had Dave Camarillo (Dan's brother) from AKA teach class tonight. Was amazing.

GrCh35

11-24-2007, 08:29 AM

A new place by me that's opening called Siege MMA is charging $110 for adults/ $60 for children all the way up to 18 years old. They are offering everything.

Ryan

11-24-2007, 09:40 AM

sounds like a great place. I checked the website and it sounds like a good deal

Dannicus

11-25-2007, 01:03 PM

Woot! I can finally contribute to this particular thread!

I a training in Savage, MN which is about 15 minutes south west of Minneapolis at American School of Martial Arts. I am paying $125/month. ASMA has BJJ, Kempo, Thai Boxing, Boxing, an MMA class, and a weight training facility. I can take as many classes as I like, any discipline minus the MMA class until the instructors feel I am ready to take it. Though the MMA class is designed for those who are looking to compete and I don't see myself competing in MMA.

BJJinOtt

01-31-2008, 11:32 AM

This question goes out to Ari..or anyone else who might have an answer.

I'm gonna start training at the Ottawa Academy of Martial Arts (www.oama.com) shortly. It'll be great cause it is literally 5 minutes from my office. I'll go on my lunch breaks so I can technically go 5 times/week. They have a Muy Thai ring as well, so I can train both (bjj and MT)
They charge $80/month (CDN) From reading this thread, that sounds like a fair price. I went to watch a class last week and was pretty impressed. The instructors were 2 guys named Matt (Hammer) Hache and Peter Fazekas.

Ari, have you heard of either? If so....what's the scoop?

Thanks in advance,
Geoff