exhuastion problems

[stormshadow]

okay. i know that the more you roll the better your cardio gets and all that good stuff but i just want to know if anyone has the same problem as me.

i'm the same like when most people physically over-exert themselves in training or whatever and end up puking, feel better and keep training.

but... when that happens to me, i usually end up puking all night long and having intense anxiety attacks and stuff. and i get into this daze for hours and hours where i can't even hold a logical conversation with people. it's almost like i'm stoned out of my mind......

almost like i was training with eddie! :D


anyways.... does this happen to anyone else? and does anyone know what might cause it to be so severe?

i don't have an anxiety problem except for this.

(sorry this was so long. :confused: )

[l8njames]

How long have you been trianing? If your new to it try and stay calm and relax a bit, being tense makes you use more energy, and effects your breathing which will tire you quicker, this will bass as you trian more.
If you ain't new to it then i find running is good for rolling cardio but everyone is differant i find a 30min run helps me bit there are differant types of cardio workout for differant sports.
check out jj fitness for some more ideas

[jbrentsmith]

Breathe! And dont let it get to the point of exhaustion especially if it affects you that terribly.
To answer your question i have no idea what would be causing such a reaction SORRY! :confused:

[Ryan]

How is your hydration during training?

[SnakeBites]

Is it weird that I cant finish the run at the start of class, but I dont gas as much when I roll

[stormshadow]

i could see being a little under-hydrated but i usually drink tons of water. and i also stay away from pop and sports drinks.

as far as tensing up. you're probably right. i do tense up quite a bit.

i just don't know why for most people they feel fine after they cool down but for me that's when this horrible rollercoaster of nausea and anxiety starts...

maybe i should go to the doctor.

[Ari Bolden]

I've never been a fan of the 'train till you puke' school of thought.

There are many factors that could lead to you getting sick or a combination of factors. Not enough water (too much water), no food in the system, adrenaline, sickness, improper breathing...these can all lead to throwing up.

Typically, exerting yourself beyond your limit will cause the body to shut down. That is why so many people feel sick or actually puke after high stress situations (fighting, muggings, being startled, catastrophic events).

Slow down and stop well before this happens. Know thyself after all.

[mattamatta]

Man, that would be hillarious to startle a friend so bad that they puke and are physically messed up for a while. Pretty terrible, but hillarious nonetheless.

[Jer_sm]

i could see being a little under-hydrated but i usually drink tons of water. and i also stay away from pop and sports drinks.

as far as tensing up. you're probably right. i do tense up quite a bit.

i just don't know why for most people they feel fine after they cool down but for me that's when this horrible rollercoaster of nausea and anxiety starts...

maybe i should go to the doctor.

the most common cause of exercise induced sickness or the puke monster is a change in your blood pH produced by the anaerobic metabolism of pyruvic acid. If you workout harder than usuall and your body cant get rid of the lactic acid quicker than you are producing it a build up occurs and your ph goes out of whack. You become toxic and puke to try to clean your system.

usually puking does the trick for most people. Ive never heard of this before. Ive puked maybe 4-5 time so far from rolling and or boxing. What you have sounds like a vagus nerve reaction acutally.

Vagal Reaction, Exercise induced sickness from the vagal reaction is more rare but happens. Most folks heart rate increases when they are excited, scared, or doing a hard workout. However, a small percent of people experience the opposite. their heart rate slows, blood pressure falls, and they can experience intense nausea with or without vomiting or getting sick.

The lack of oxygen, the low blood pressure could be the cause of your "stoned" feeling. You feel so light headed as if you are being choked out by Ari. You might want to go see a doctor though. I also read about it being liked to seasure and other life threatening things.

here is a link on the Vagus nerve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve

[Iron Guard Fitness]

StormShadow...

My first suggestion would be to undergo a physical test by your physician. This serves two purposes.

1. It will ensure you are physiologically sound enough to do what you are doing.
2. Most importantly, it will reduce the anxiety component of what it is you are experiencing.

If you know you are in good physical health you will be able to calm yourself by understanding that you are not about to die.

The mind is a very powerful thing and anxiety can be scary. It is also perpetuating and difficult to turn off.

There are many who have similar symptoms to that which you describe so rest assured you are not alone.

You may like to try this...when you are experiencing some of the symptoms try laying down with your torso slightly elevated. Take your right hand and place it on your diaphragm (belly) take long deep breaths from your belly...your rib cage should not move.

This engages your asympathetic nervous system and will automatically relax you. It takes a bit of practice.

Hope that helps bro.

Todd
IGF

[Jer_sm]

The puke factor is hard to avoide. I was training mma and after my session I felt soemthing in my throat I knew it was coming. I just kept taking deep breaths. I took sips of water and after while we where walking to leave i ate a banana. 2 mins later I puked all that water and banana out like 15 mins AFTER my work out. Usually you just let it out and you are fine. You dont seem to be so fortunate.

[stormshadow]

the most common cause of exercise induced sickness or the puke monster is a change in your blood pH produced by the anaerobic metabolism of pyruvic acid. If you workout harder than usuall and your body cant get rid of the lactic acid quicker than you are producing it a build up occurs and your ph goes out of whack. You become toxic and puke to try to clean your system.

usually puking does the trick for most people. Ive never heard of this before. Ive puked maybe 4-5 time so far from rolling and or boxing. What you have sounds like a vagus nerve reaction acutally.

Vagal Reaction, Exercise induced sickness from the vagal reaction is more rare but happens. Most folks heart rate increases when they are excited, scared, or doing a hard workout. However, a small percent of people experience the opposite. their heart rate slows, blood pressure falls, and they can experience intense nausea with or without vomiting or getting sick.

The lack of oxygen, the low blood pressure could be the cause of your "stoned" feeling. You feel so light headed as if you are being choked out by Ari. You might want to go see a doctor though. I also read about it being liked to seasure and other life threatening things.

here is a link on the Vagus nerve http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vagus_nerve

Ok. i just read the essay about the Vagus nerve and that seems to fit really well. i do get nauseous for no reason sometimes (I i have been to the dr. about that and they have no idea what's wrong) and constant neck pain. maybe a couple trips to the chiropractor could fix this whole thing!!:D

thanks a lot bro!

[CEB]

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You may like to try this...when you are experiencing some of the symptoms try laying down with your torso slightly elevated. Take your right hand and place it on your diaphragm (belly) take long deep breaths from your belly...your rib cage should not move.

This engages your asympathetic nervous system and will automatically relax you. It takes a bit of practice.

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That is funny because I used to sit and watch the children breathe when they were babies, especially when they were asleep. Perfect belly breathing from the hara. Somewhere along the line we forget how to breathe then have to make an effort to relearn what we used to know. I don't know why.

[Jer_sm]

Ok. i just read the essay about the Vagus nerve and that seems to fit really well. i do get nauseous for no reason sometimes (I i have been to the dr. about that and they have no idea what's wrong) and constant neck pain. maybe a couple trips to the chiropractor could fix this whole thing!!:D

thanks a lot bro!


no problem, im just glad i could help. :D who needs a doctor when you have google! :D
but seriously if you get that checked, be sure to keep us posted. I am curious what the solution will be! good luck!