View Full Version : How to counter/prevent the foot drag mount escape?
xyrzrockrain
05-25-2009, 02:58 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F77YgmAoo0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC1aYkJiQjI
I can protect myself from being bridged but this move ALWAYS gets me. Is there a way to prevent/counter this?
Smitaay
05-25-2009, 03:19 AM
Yeah, the way you defend against that is to be expecting it. They will usually do it as soon as you go into mount. So say you are bringing your right leg over their body for mount. As soon as it hits the ground, you pop it back up like you are going into Technical Mount, so your right foot will be planted in their right hip. Then bring your right knee back down, but leave your foot where it is and your knees will be up higher on them closer to their armpits, but your foot will be up too high for them to hook it for that escape.
I'm finding that a traditional mount seems to be rapidly disappearing. As soon as I mount somebody, they turn on their side (like in the second video) and start escaping that way (I do the same thing when I get mounted). If I try to hold a normal mount, they nearly always escape, especially if I'm rolling no Gi, so I almost always go to Technical Mount, now, when they turn to their side.
Hope this helped. Good luck, buddy.
rocknroll
05-25-2009, 04:05 AM
if someone does that on me i like to do the samurai
summitcitysubmissions
05-25-2009, 07:43 AM
The best way to counter it is to get to high mount and or Gangsta Lean. IMO
The Samurai is a great counter as mentioned before.
LongV
05-25-2009, 10:46 AM
I usually go for the knee on stomach position. Basically, say if he went for the escape on his right side, I would bring my right leg up for the knee on stomach.
xyrzrockrain
05-25-2009, 10:55 AM
Yeah, the way you defend against that is to be expecting it. They will usually do it as soon as you go into mount. So say you are bringing your right leg over their body for mount. As soon as it hits the ground, you pop it back up like you are going into Technical Mount, so your right foot will be planted in their right hip. Then bring your right knee back down, but leave your foot where it is and your knees will be up higher on them closer to their armpits, but your foot will be up too high for them to hook it for that escape.
I'm finding that a traditional mount seems to be rapidly disappearing. As soon as I mount somebody, they turn on their side (like in the second video) and start escaping that way (I do the same thing when I get mounted). If I try to hold a normal mount, they nearly always escape, especially if I'm rolling no Gi, so I almost always go to Technical Mount, now, when they turn to their side.
Hope this helped. Good luck, buddy.
Technical Mount? Im sorry but I dont know that..
Smitaay
05-25-2009, 01:07 PM
Technical Mount? Im sorry but I dont know that..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrCkpYFXJUE
There ya' go, buddy. Switch to that if it looks like you're gonna lose mount and work from there, or do the Samurai moves that the other guys talked about. They are described in Mastering the Twister on pg. 182 to take you to their back, or pg. 229 to get the Twister on them. If you don't have that book, there may be a video on submissions101 on it.
summitcitysubmissions
05-25-2009, 07:21 PM
technical mount set up perfectly for an arm bar attempt in that position. i personally would rather go straight to the arm bar rather than chill there.
my two cents
Legendary Journeys
05-25-2009, 08:00 PM
technical mount set up perfectly for an arm bar attempt in that position. i personally would rather go straight to the arm bar rather than chill there.
my two cents
Sometimes I find that when I get to the modified mount there, people are so worried about their arm that they make it easier to get an arm triangle or take the back. That's just in my limited experience, though. The Gracies seem to be big on that postion and the twisting arm control you can get there.
Sometimes I find that when I get to the modified mount there, people are so worried about their arm that they make it easier to get an arm triangle or take the back. That's just in my limited experience, though. The Gracies seem to be big on that postion and the twisting arm control you can get there.
That's funny.. I accidently ended up in that mount . I was going for the arm triangle and he defended by raising his arm and bending it... so I popped up to hook it and sink the arm bar but the wall to the left of me wouldn't allow me to lay back.
So instead I was stuck in a modified mount (never really heard of this before reading this thread). I totally felt like I could be swept but he really couldn't do anything to me since I had his shoulder isolated, his elbow hooked, and my weight on his sternum.
I eventually had to ride him away from the wall to where I could whip back and nail the arm bar. I should definitely play with this more.
xyrzrockrain
05-25-2009, 09:59 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrCkpYFXJUE
There ya' go, buddy. Switch to that if it looks like you're gonna lose mount and work from there, or do the Samurai moves that the other guys talked about. They are described in Mastering the Twister on pg. 182 to take you to their back, or pg. 229 to get the Twister on them. If you don't have that book, there may be a video on submissions101 on it.
Thank you! looks like a good option
jiujitsujimmy
05-29-2009, 05:04 PM
when he traps your right foot and start to bridge you can:
--cut your right knee over his belly and to the floor,
--establish a right arm under hook on his left arm,
--sag your right hip, start freeing your foot and pass to cross-body
Hadaka Jime
05-29-2009, 08:29 PM
if your getting swept back into guard, your mount sucks... if you can't maintain it, then try going for a sub, GOGO's from the top work if your very flexible, arm bars, americana key locks, move to spider web if your opponent is moving there legs that much, if you spin and throw a hook on the arm closest to you with you arm on the head side, and grab around the leg, there are tons of options from here. You can do an arm crush, the chamber lock, X-break, The silverado, triangle, triangle arm bar, the fiho, and the slide
if you aren't very flexible, but wanna learn some of the 10th planet jiu jitsu stuff i'd recommend studying up on the spider web game he's got, it's amazing how many subs you can get with it or from it
jasper_milktoast
06-01-2009, 10:41 PM
i play heavy, but usually work for a high mount. i like to stay up in there arm pits.
sometimes i end up in technical mount, but find myself taking the arm instead of chilling there. never really called it by that name though. thanks for enlightening me on it.
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