UFC 76 Predictions

[Ryan]

I think Liddell will kill Jardine but I think Forrest will upset Shogun. I think Sanchez will get his second loss and Tyson Griffin will reign supreme. Also, Machida will continue his dominance.

What do you all think?

[Dante]

I'm with you on Liddel, but I don't know if he'll kill him. I think Shogun beats Griffin, and I'm a Diego Sanchez fan so I'm rooting for him. Tavares' record looks pretty impressive, but I don't know much about either of these fighters. I think Machida is also going to beat Nakamura
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[Ryan]

The only way I see Jardine winning is if Liddell just doesn't want it anymore.

[Dante]

I don't know if that's necessarily true, Jardine got pretty much destroyed in his last fight so he may want to come back with a vengeance. If not then you could be right, Liddell's been at the top for a while, and he may feel like he doesn't have to prove anything.
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[Ryan]

Well, Jardine did learn a hard lesson last fight. I knew he was going to lose the minute he started bad mouthing Houston saying that he just beat Forrest Griffin and deserves a contender. Maybe his preparation will be different since he knows his opponent.

[Ryan]

One reason I feel Griffin is going to win is because he has Randy now and I think Randy can review tape with him and really find a good strategy that can pick him apart.

[Ghosted3]

for the bigger fights of the night, i have Liddell, Shogun, Fitch and Nak (liddell and shogun by tko/ko & nak and fitch by decision)

[Hadaka Jime]

lidell>jardine
shogun>griffin

[Ryan]

Wow, can't believe I am the only one predicting an upset.... If I am not mistaken there has been one upset or shocking outcome at every PPV this year.

[Ghosted3]

They have Nak as a decent underdog...does that count? other than that I dont see the big upset this PPV, but I must admit it would be nice to see a few =)

[Hadaka Jime]

idk these could both be very very close fights...

i think jardine has a chance because chuck lidell can get rocked with 1 lucky shot, i mean striking if both are decent power even if jardine is getting knocked around if you catch some one with a big punch it can turn the whole fight around

i think that forrest has a chance because a few things, the cage is a whole new game... if you put forrest and shogun in a ring i think shogun would win, but with the cage i think forrest has a lot more experience in the cage and how to move around and how to use it in stand up/on the ground... and if he takes after randy at all he'll throw shogun up against the cage and us some greko and pound him out... and i think randy will see shoguns lack of octagon experience and will have forrest use randy's greko/dirt boxing style

[Ryan]

Wow.... just wow. 2 major upsets:D :eek:

[Ghosted3]

I dont know what to say about the shogun fight...

[Ryan]

Griffen was just a better fighter that night. Everyone can say it was because of the octagon or the rules or whatever but here are some notes I picked up during the fight that gives Rua very few excuses.

-elbows.... Rua actually busted up Griffin REAL bad during the fight with elbows. Rua used them so he can't use rules as an escape
-conditioning.... Rua was either not in shape or Griffin was just superior in this department. Conditioning played a HUGE part in the 3rd round.
-the cage.... he knew he had to fight in a cage. He should have either bought one or practiced somewhere that had one.
-None of these conditions could possibly stop Rua from punching or kicking or from blocking Griffins Jits.

Plain and Simple.... Griffin was just better:D

[Hadaka Jime]

Griffen was just a better fighter that night. Everyone can say it was because of the octagon or the rules or whatever but here are some notes I picked up during the fight that gives Rua very few excuses.

-elbows.... Rua actually busted up Griffin REAL bad during the fight with elbows. Rua used them so he can't use rules as an escape
-conditioning.... Rua was either not in shape or Griffin was just superior in this department. Conditioning played a HUGE part in the 3rd round.
-the cage.... he knew he had to fight in a cage. He should have either bought one or practiced somewhere that had one.
-None of these conditions could possibly stop Rua from punching or kicking or from blocking Griffins Jits.

Plain and Simple.... Griffin was just better:Dyup no doubt, forrest almost landed a omoplata! i couldn't believe how much better he looked than shogun

[Ghosted3]

I agree that there are no excuses to be made, and as much as I hate to say this, there is the big question (that is on almost everyones minds) about steroids and pride. Shogun completely gassed after the first round and he always had good cardio in Pride even with the 10min first round. Just seemed like a complete different fighter out there. Griffen came in great shape, good game plan and looked really determined, all the props to that man.

[Ryan]

Randy is a miracle worker.

[Hadaka Jime]

i think randy can work a game plan to beat any body... (except rickson) but yeah randy is a great person to have on your side, but forrest was a pretty good fighter before randy to give forrest some credit

[Marcus_CC13]

Randy is a miracle worker.

Randy needs to stop piaking fighters to win becasue he always goes against my fav fighters then the get beat...... DAMN YOU RANDY haha

[Ryan]

i think randy can work a game plan to beat any body... (except rickson) but yeah randy is a great person to have on your side, but forrest was a pretty good fighter before randy to give forrest some credit

Sometimes I think Griffin is like The Ohio State Buckeyes where he plays/fights to the other persons ability and either gets caught or pulls out a win.

If he would have fought Jardine like he fought Ortiz and Rua then he would have won.

[Ryan]

You make no sense whatsoever. WTF would Shogun take an extra 5k to lose when he would have doubled his money to win? If that is the case then that just shows the pride that PRIDE guys really have. I know it isn't true but c'mon are you one of those guys who don't think TUF guys can be contenders?

[Ghosted3]

Under different circumstances I can see someone saying Shogun took a dive, but seriously did you watch the same fight as everyone else? He was dead on his feet, he couldnt even shoot he was so tired he was just falling on Forrest's lead leg. Its not like he was hessitant on throwing or something.

[Ryan]

Griffen did have a fight ending cut from an elbow

[Hadaka Jime]

i guess i will ignore you, shogun clearly wanted to win the fight... he got full omoplata'd and got out of it... if he was going to lose he would have tapped right away, and he was attacking he hit Forrest with s few good elbows and he was definentlnot trying to lose, or he would have tapped instantly to the omoplata and not risked getting his shoulder dislocated, and the ufc is not prejudice about there champions... there was a Canadian (GSP) who was champ, and rampage is black... if they wanted a American they'd choose the white popular guy and have less prejudice..

and if you have any prior UFC knowledge, you would know the UFC was made and founded by the Gracie's... out of Brazil not americans... and the champion of UFC 1,2 and 4 was Brazilian... so there is no correlation between the race/ethnicity of the fighter and who is winning the fights... the one and only time that i can say i know there was a bias was the matt hamill vs michael bisbing fight... i think that bisbing won purely because the fight was in england and because he's undefeated ATM and they never want to give a loss in decision to an undefeated fighter, because if that is the only loss of the career, the fighter will always blame the loss on decision

all in all, i think Forrest was in better shape and came in and fought a war.. like he's known to do, he gets cut and then he turns it on, gets fired up and fights some of the most interesting fights in UFC history IMO, if you saw in the Forrest Griffin vs Stephan Bonnar fight... i think for sure this was one of, if not the best fights in UFC history, so i completley 100% disagree with you, i think shogun came in with bad conditioning and didn't prepare for the war that Forrest put him through

and when you said "Ok Ryan I understand that you know everything about MMA" that sounds kind of snotty, because Ryan never once said "I know everything about MMA" because he knows he doesn't and neither do i, and neither do you... MMA is so unpredictable, if it was as simple as the fighter with the better record allways wins or the better fighter on paper all ways wins, then MMA would be boring... the fact that any one can win any fight in thousands of different ways, and it's so unpredictable no one will "Know everything about MMA" all though some people do know a lot, witch i believe that Ryan does:cool:

[Ryan]

Thank you sir! Like you said, nobody knows everything about MMA and I am always learning something new. I am so positive that I don't know everything about MMA that I would like to point you in the direction of my UFC 76 Prediction (beginning) thread that mentions that I think Forrest will win and Jardine will lose. The Liddell/Jardine fight was the only fight I got wrong in my predictions. I made the unpopular call that Forrest would win because of PRIDES history in UFC fights and the fact that Forrest has ALOT of heart. I picked Liddell for the fact that he is a badass. I over estimated him showing I don't know everything about MMA.

That is the purpose of these forums...... to learn.

[Dante]

Wow, I was so wrong about my pics. I think I got all of them wrong haha. I don't even want to check. Anyways, it was a good show can't wait for UFC77.
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[Hadaka Jime]

i originally thought shogun was going to win, by i watched a lot of fights before the actual event started from shogun and Forrest... and i honestly thought going into the fight that Forrest would win... as for Lidell vs Jardine, i overestimated Lidell and did not even think jardine would have a chance further then a lucky punch to rock Lidell