Triangling your legs to defend a kneebar

[M1ke10191]

Hey guys. I hardly post on here but I was grappling with my friend and I ran intro a problem. When I go for a kneebar he would traingle his legs to prevent it. I do the same to defend them since neither of us know any sweeps, subs, whatever, from that position. Is this a viable defense, or are we just setting ourselves up for unseen ankle locks? Can someone give me some pointers for this? Both offenses and defenses would be great if you know some. Oh, and I'm not flexible enough for much 10th planet stuff, so try and keep it as "normal" as possible, thanks (:

[younwha]

It can buy you time to triangle your leg, it can also get yourself in a toehold.... i'm assuming you're not in a standing position, you're on your back/side... your best bet is to push on his ass with both hands while pushing on his thigh with your free leg, trying to scoot directly out of the knee bar. At least that's what I do. Or just do a lot of leg curls and get really strong legs lol :p

[jbrentsmith]

Theres a really nice ankle lock you can hit if your opponent triangles his legs. Say youre attacking the left leg with the knee bar and he triangles his legs. What you do is attack that right leg. You can either toehold the right foot OR if you reposition the way you are sitting, still trapping that left leg, you can hit a straight ankle lock on the right leg as well. Kinda hard to explain but it works very well. Because his left leg is trapped it is really difficult to defend the straight ankle lock. Hope that gives you an idea or two. If that doesnt make sense i can try to explain it better.

[M1ke10191]

Theres a really nice ankle lock you can hit if your opponent triangles his legs. Say youre attacking the left leg with the knee bar and he triangles his legs. What you do is attack that right leg. You can either toehold the right foot OR if you reposition the way you are sitting, still trapping that left leg, you can hit a straight ankle lock on the right leg as well. Kinda hard to explain but it works very well. Because his left leg is trapped it is really difficult to defend the straight ankle lock. Hope that gives you an idea or two. If that doesnt make sense i can try to explain it better.

How would you toehold the foot? Would it be a simple grab it with both hands and pry or is there a technique behind it? And I'm thinking I could use my own legs against his right ankle to get some form of an Achilles lock. Do you happen to know any escapes/sweeps on the defensive end?

[JayC]

Kick him up the arse. Not even joking, it hurts and works.

[M1ke10191]

Kick him up the arse. Not even joking, it hurts and works.

Well its just friendly grappling, i don't want to hurt him (yes, I'm aware that my main goal is to make him tap but you know what I mean), and couldn't that be considered a strike? I could see pushing off him but what you said sounds like a strike.

[jbrentsmith]

How would you toehold the foot? Would it be a simple grab it with both hands and pry or is there a technique behind it? And I'm thinking I could use my own legs against his right ankle to get some form of an Achilles lock. Do you happen to know any escapes/sweeps on the defensive end?

There is definately technique behind the toehold. Its not a difficult technique but there are a couple tips and tricks behind it.
As far as getting the achilles lock with your legs, I don't think you'll be able to get the leverage to get a tap.
The best defense to leglocks in general is to not let the leg weave happen in the first place lol. But if/when they do get your legs tied up you want to start trying to get your leg out. Once you're past the knee you're generally safe. Wiggle, caveman rip it out whatever it takes. If you're gonna roll BE CAREFUL. If you spin the wrong way you will probably blow out you're knee. Which will probably take you out of training for awhile plus surgery. Not pretty. A good way to start learning the defense to the leglock is to study the leglock. That way you'll know if your opponent has you in any immediate danger.
The problem with the leglocks is it doesn't really hurt until it pops. Then it hurts for awhile. So don't push it too far. Nothing wrong with tapping when training.