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gooch
10-23-2009, 12:40 PM
question about "rules" for you

we've been working a variation or knee on belly that is esentially knee on head or neck

to the best of your knowledge is this a "legal" postion in jits?
rocknroll
10-23-2009, 12:57 PM
yes it is but if you do knee on head watch that you dont twist his neck (only if twisted neckcranks are forbidden ;)), that would be the only problem i could imagine
CEB
10-23-2009, 01:15 PM
Be careful around the face area.

Also be careful how you get the position. Use of knees in a way which could hurt your opponent is considered a serious foul. A knee drop on your opponents head would be a disqualification.

Be careful of anything that could crank the neck.

*** This is coming from IBJJF gi - type competitions ***

I don't know anything about no gi. ..... and very little about gi stuff.
jakem
10-23-2009, 01:36 PM
we used to use a knee on jaw type of crank.

from knee on belly(chest)bolth hands grab the head,and the knee slides up to the jaw and pull on the head like a canopener.

prolly a douche move but it works for self defence not really sport
younwha
10-23-2009, 01:53 PM
prolly a douche move but it works for self defence not really sport

That's the first thing that came to mind lol I would be pissed if someone pulled that on me at a tourney.
jakem
10-23-2009, 01:57 PM
That's the first thing that came to mind lol I would be pissed if someone pulled that on me at a tourney.

yea mee too but we had a "vale tudo" instructor and you know anything goes;)
Otto
10-23-2009, 07:03 PM
we used to use a knee on jaw type of crank.

from knee on belly(chest)bolth hands grab the head,and the knee slides up to the jaw and pull on the head like a canopener.

prolly a douche move but it works for self defence not really sport

Knee on the neck is one of the oldest control moves in Law Enforcement. Keeps em where you want em until they're cuffed.
CEB
10-23-2009, 07:38 PM
Tell me about. We had 8 cops in my Karate dojo and our teacher was a cop.
Deimos
10-23-2009, 08:28 PM
Well any tournament I've been in knees on the face or neck were illegal. I'd be pretty mad if someone did that to me!
Otto
10-23-2009, 09:01 PM
Welcome to the forum, Deimos. Nice to have you here.
Enjoy, bro, we all do.
Deimos
10-23-2009, 10:26 PM
:)...............
gooch
10-25-2009, 01:18 PM
so its legal as long and i don't twist it or add a neck crank?
ATrain11267
10-25-2009, 01:34 PM
I'm not so sure. The best advice would be to consult a local ref to find out, even then one ref may consider it a foul whereas another may not... On a curious note, why is it something you're working on for competition?? Just work on the knee on belly and get your two points!! :)
gooch
10-25-2009, 06:14 PM
I'm not so sure. The best advice would be to consult a local ref to find out, even then one ref may consider it a foul whereas another may not... On a curious note, why is it something you're working on for competition?? Just work on the knee on belly and get your two points!! :)

i doubt i will be competing, but want to be able to tell the guys i roll with if it is allowed or not for comps because they are looking to compete down the line, i'm a much better teacher than practitioner

this position comes after knee on belly actually and is a transition to a bunch of subs we've been working