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paquito
06-19-2010, 04:52 PM
hi i'm new to jiu jitsu, i've been studying it for about a month.

i saw the videos of the belt choke and the knuckle choke and i wanted to know if you can actually use them in a competition match, and wanted to know some tips and precautions about the use of this chokes.
Matt
06-19-2010, 05:06 PM
When I hear belt choke.. I think of the hitman lol.. dont think its legal in competition.

Knuckle chokes though yeah, I've had one in comp and they never said anything about it.
zaxonortesus
06-19-2010, 05:49 PM
Haha, the hitman. One of my faves. Not legal in comps that I know of. Knuckle chokes, I don't know in what sense you mean, so I can't really say.
Turf
06-19-2010, 06:03 PM
Belt Choke of any kind = DQ

What's a knuckle choke? Like driving a knuckle into their throat? As far as I know that's perfectly legal.
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Ari Bolden
06-19-2010, 06:27 PM
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Acenes
06-19-2010, 07:55 PM
It depends on the competition ... everyone has different rules
paquito
06-19-2010, 09:54 PM
You can find the videos of the chokes i'm refering to in the submissions 101 videos...
I just realized that each competitions has it's own rules. I guess that what i want to know is if the belt and the knockle choke
Can be used as legal moves in jiu jitsu...

I hope i'm making myself clear...
Matt
06-20-2010, 10:01 AM
belt no
knuckle yes
zaxonortesus
06-20-2010, 11:08 AM
Yeah, the knuckle choke is totally legal. Or feed the hand in a touch more, put it on the wind pipe and call it an Ezikiel. Kinda dirty, so I reserve that special bit of pain for competitions.
younwha
06-20-2010, 01:43 PM
I always thought belt chokes were legal so long as the belt was still tied on... huh?
paquito
06-20-2010, 04:41 PM
I always thought belt chokes were legal so long as the belt was still tied on... huh?

i heard that as long as the belt is tied on and the choke is done with one hand it is legal. but i'm still not sure
Turf
06-20-2010, 06:14 PM
Nope. You can grab your opponent's belt for control or throws, but you can't use your own to choke someone. I guess you could choke them with your belt, but you would be DQ real fast.
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younwha
06-20-2010, 06:57 PM
Nope. You can grab your opponent's belt for control or throws, but you can't use your own to choke someone. I guess you could choke them with your belt, but you would be DQ real fast.

Eh - a wins a win lol just because the paper says you lost, memories let you remember you won because he was snoring while you were walking off the mat.
paquito
06-20-2010, 08:22 PM
here it is, the video of the belt choke i'm talking about

http://www.submissions101.com/videos/pages/Detailed/26.html
paquito
06-21-2010, 07:20 AM
i found this one in the forum, i guess this is a controversial topic.

Note:

When I said choking with the belt is illegal, you cannot take it off and choke in the manner above.

However, according to the rules, you may use any part of your gi or his that is ATTACHED to you (or him) to submit or choke during a match. Problem is, some refs would call this illegal too because it doesn't happen often and therefore would assume it is illegal.

My Japanese Jujutsu instructor taught me this one:

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protput
06-21-2010, 12:24 PM
i heard that as long as the belt is tied on and the choke is done with one hand it is legal. but i'm still not sure

Yup, I asked the IBJJF about this a while ago and this was their answer:



You can use your own belt and your belt have to be tied with a doble knot and one more thing you can use only one side of the belt after the knot

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Abs,
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Alvaro Mansor
Diretor Técnico IBJJF