Blending Judo and Wrestling? - Page 2

AJ · #11 02-05-2010, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan

Have you ever considered instead of dropping down for an obvious takedown attempt go for a trip where you just put your foot behind their ankle and drive them backwards?

That usually happens anyways if you secure good double under hooks. Personally though, I don't like landing in guard. It sort of defeats the whole point of the takedown (imo).

AJ · #12 02-05-2010, 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr Sick

Not necessarily a foot sweep into a single leg, but here's a little gem for you. One of my favorites.

Uchi mata to cross ankle pick. If my right leg reaps, my left hand goes for the cross ankle and vise versa.

Nice, shooting for the ankle pick while you force that foot to be weighted is a good idea.

Dr Sick · #13 02-08-2010, 11:46 AM

You might also want to look beyond just Wrestling and Judo. Silat has some great takedowns that blend well too. They have a technique which is called "Datu-Luar" (I think).

It's basically the same concept as the Uchi-mata to cross ankle pick but it's done with a foot trap instead of a hand grabbing the ankle.

It's shown at 3:17. The initial sweep is done here in Silat style (and with an arm wrench as opposed to an underhook or whizzar). I use more of a Judo energy but the essential movement is the same. It's kind of like a twinkle twinkle little star. The notes are the same but how you play them differs depending on whether you're playing Classical or Jazz. But shortly after the initial sweep is the Datu Luar which is like a cross ankle pick done with the foot.

Generally I'll use the cross ankle pick if I want to take the guy down and grapple, and I'll use Datu Luar if I want to throw the guy down and off of me so that I can remain standing and strike.

Dr Sick · #14 02-08-2010, 12:01 PM

Here's another variation of the same type of idea with a slightly different energy. At the time of filming Greg Nelson was a senior instructor of Muay Thai, hence my referal to him as Khuen Khru. Since that time he has been promoted to Ajarn.

He's also one of the principal instructors of CSW, he was Professor Pedro Sauer's first BJJ Black Belt, and holds a number of other accolaides.

He's one of my all time favorite instructors to work under.

AsianInvasion · #15 02-11-2010, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BadKarmaRising

We call that a "request for launch clearance."

Kosoto=uchimata victim

Just ask Rickson about the ride Ron Tripp sent him on. :-D

ron tripp was my all-time favourite judo player. what was his record? over 2000 wins and only a few hundred losses?
that man was the definition of "Beast".
and with that said, i don't really reccomend drilling when you give someone judo advice, try not to drop the UM(uchi-mata) bomb.
haha its a very advanced throw, as you know, and takes years of mastering. i, myself, haven't TRULY mastered it yet, much less the no-gi version of it.
its really comparable to telling a whitebelt to land a twister from back control

CEB · #16 02-11-2010, 03:03 PM

George Weers came to our dojo when I was a green belt and taught a class he called 'Uchi Mata - The easiest throw in Judo'.

The He proceeded to teach 108 variation on the throw. I was so confused I could NOT throw Uchi Mata again for 2 years.